“Meditation makes you strong like a mountain, you become awake, strong, and humble too. This strength does not bring any Ego in you, because you become aware that the same witnessing soul exists in everybody, even in animals, birds, plants, rocks.
A rock has its own way of sleeping, tree has its own way of sleeping, and birds still a different way of sleeping, the method of sleeping is different but deep down at the core of every being is the same witnessing, the same God. That makes you humble, Even before a rock, you know that you are nobody special…. “
How in a deeper way one can come to this realization that has been described in the above paragraph, considering yourself as nothing special even in front of a rock?
Thank you for your question.
Have you observed rocks and pebbles? It is Ahnanda’s experience that they have a level of consciousness, but probably you have not experienced that, or you wouldn’t be asking this question.
Do you know how dolphins “sleep”? They sleep and are awake at the same time! Sleeping is a word that we understand from the “normal” human perspective, but in Life, there are so many variations! Remember this: Life offers so many varieties of things that humans reject or accept according to their own made up “filter.”
The words in that paragraph about meditation are merely pointers. “Meditation” is a word with so many meanings.
You cannot become what has been described in that paragraph. That is someone else’s experience.
Do you want to consider yourself as nothing special?
Obviously because you thought you ARE special. Perhaps the above paragraph comes from someone that you consider special, authoritative and you want to be that… “special” by being nothing special. 🙂
You cannot BE what you ARE not. But you can fake it.
All living beings are “unique but not special.”
Do you see the uniqueness of all?
What makes something from unique into special?
Your particular value system. Your needs. Your conditioning. Your attachments.
It is all about that “I” (you.)
To say “I am nobody” is considered by many, an insult. It is viewed as low self-esteem. In our society we are trained to be “Somebody” and to get high self-esteem through that “achievement.”
A “spiritual” person may get offended if insulted, but yet he says: “I am nobody.” Or to demonstrate how “humble” he is, he may be a floor mat for everyone. That is fake. Paradoxically, through that act of being “humble” he is looking to be someone “special.” Just like Christ, Buddha or anyone “famous.”
Enjoy the farce, but discover it in yourself. That is where everything starts and finish. That is “my” viewpoint.
I know that you are able to grasp what I am trying to convey without quoting me, without using these words as the “ultimate truth.” They are not.
Otherwise, here is a more accepted “spiritual” answer with spiritual “practices” and “Spiritual” keywords:
Do this exercise 5 times per day on an empty stomach:
1. Visualize for 2 minutes that you are a pebble in the street.
2. Meditate 15 minutes every day on your own nothingness and then breathe deeply 3 times while pronouncing the “OM” mantra.
3. Do this for a 1 month without failure and you will see improvements. The rock on the street and you will be one. There will not be a difference between both of you.
If you don’t get any results that is because you are not performing the exercises correctly. Do them again for another month.
We cannot become a paragraph. To be “nobody” comes by itself after we have reached the utmost point of being “somebody.”
So who are we, nobody or somebody? Both. That is the full experience. Enjoy the ride from point A to point B. That is all. That is the “effort,” the “purpose of Life.”
When you are “up” in a roller coaster ride, it is sure that you will go “down.” Otherwise, you wouldn’t have the complete experience. So it is in Life. It is a game.
Until December 1st! 🙂
Self-discovery is not a method. It is a process of unfolding what is “there,” to the point where “that” is no longer there.
What is left?
Nothing. At that instant, we are everything.
How long does it take?
As long as it is needed. The game is to go from one extreme of the range of experiences into the other, just to come back again.
The minute we acknowledge suffering, injustice, death and pain, that is the instant that we will look for “solutions.” A seeker is born, full of “I.”
The “I” will look for “salvation.” The “I” is aware of its own pettiness and will seek out for a savior. That is the beginning of “paths for salvation.”
Let us believe in a God. Let us worship Him. Let us seek His favors. Let us be the “chosen” ones.
There is no better way to enhance the worth of that “I.”
If you are a rebel, if you don’t want to believe in a savior, then you will believe in yourself.
Again, the same trap of the “I.” Destiny is solely in “my” hands, “I” make choices, “I” want to become better, “I” want, desire, need… My Life is about fulfilling those needs/wants/whims, etc.
Let me worship with others, sing “halleluiah” and read the holy books about my savior. “I am” safe.
Perhaps at some time in our path, we may want to stop believing about someone or myself and engaging our awareness into that which we call the “I.” That is a different consciousness.
At that point, beliefs are of no use. Rather than looking for the savior, there is a need to “know myself.”
Seekers who are experiencing this stage, will usually talk about “the world being a mirror of the self,” everything goes back to “me.” Every event happens so I can know myself, etc. It is a “Me” world.
That is the time for healing emotions, discarding beliefs, separating from the world, just to come back to it.
As we discover many things about the self, we will get stuck into the emotions of pain, guilt, shame, cowardice, anger, lust, attachment, etc. believing that this is “me” and wanting to let those emotions go away… then, we may be ready to explore another state of consciousness…
Then perhaps, we could experience that this “I” is not a static thing. It is changing. Thus, an emotion felt is not “me” but it was “me” at one point in time. The attachment to a perception of what “I” think is true, right, reality, perfection, moral, etc. is not allowing the static “image” of that “I,” what “I” believe to be myself, to move on.
Everyone of us, is not who we think we are… however, we hold on to the idea, the mental paradigm which gives Life to the “same old thing” under all circumstances.
Perhaps at this point, we could discover that this “I” is like a rainbow. It only becomes visible to us according to some circumstances even though it is the same light of the day in a different package, but we think that it is only “real after the rain” and then it disappears, it dies, it goes away… but the rainbow is always there…
If we could understand this mystery of the rainbow, at least intellectually; we could perceive the mystery of the “I.”
It is there, Yes. But at the same time, it does not exist. When our consciousness is taken away from the rainbow, what is left?
Everything… the whole day and light including that rainbow which is there although we cannot see it.
Where God could be then, when there is no “I”? Where is the healing of the “I” if there is no “I”? Where is “spirituality” when there is no “I”?
Everything has a new meaning. New words with new meanings. At that instant we are Oneness. We are the Totality… when we are everything, what is lacking then?
When the “I” becomes “Nothing,” we lack nothing for we are everything. That is a “full circle.” The search and the seeker are over, gone… Nothing. 🙂
“Here they teach that much of existence amounts only to misery; that misery is caused by
desire; therefore, if desire is eliminated, then misery will be eliminated. Now, that is true
enough, as far as it goes. There is plenty of misery in the world, all right, but there is
ample pleasure, as well. If a person forswears pleasure in order to avoid misery, what has
he gained? A life with neither misery nor pleasure is an empty, neutral existence, and,
indeed, it is the nothingness of the void that is the lamas’ final objective. To actively seek
nothingness is worse than defeat; why, Kudra, it is surrender; craven, chickenhearted,
dishonorable surrender. Poor little babies are so afraid of pain that they spurn the myriad
sweet wonders of life so that they might protect themselves from hurt. How can you
respect that sort of weakness, how can you admire a human who consciously embraces
the bland, the mediocre, and the safe rather than risk the suffering that disappointments
From the book: “Jitterbug Perfume,” by Tom Robbins, page 75.
In my “Yoga book club,” we are reading that book.
Interesting book indeed.
Those words come from the main character of the book, “Alobar;” while speaking to his Indian partner, “Kudra.”
Below some of the “reasons” to be “spiritual” along those lines of “thinking.”
– Don’t want pain/suffering, then avoid pleasure.
– Pleasure takes you away from God. Pleasure takes you away from more important things in Life like going to heaven, becoming perfect, becoming an example for humanity.
– If you select pleasure, then suffering is unavoidable for duality is set in motion. Therefore, avoid pleasure, become stern, strict, stoic, a renunciate…and direct your energy to become an angel, to get to Nirvana, to get to the void, nothingness or Paradise, etc. Whatever it is, it is much “better” than this… 🙂
The above is a “teaching” without the understanding of Life. It is a mental ideal of “perfection,” of “becoming better.”
The above “teaching” is a misunderstood “teaching” practiced by a follower of a religion or philosophy.
A follower idealizes a “teaching,” based on his own beliefs of what is “good or bad.”
To have a goal, something to achieve, something to accomplish, is expected and taught in “spirituality.” That same “reasoning” learned in a human system (the office mentality) is moved into living Life and into “spirituality.”
In Life there is nothing which needs to be accomplished unless we believe so.
The void, the nothingness of the Lamas is not something to achieve…. if we try to achieve it, it is false, it is artificial, it is just an ideal, a belief.
What are we going to achieve? Obviously, our idea of illumination, void, nothingness, God, etc.
How are we going to achieve it? We believe, by following a method taught by someone.
The “reason” is that by following some method, we could achieve what “an illuminated” has “achieved.”
That is dishonesty behind our logical statements and reasoning. Once we “walk our talk” then we will know better. Not before. Before it is just about ideas, beliefs, inner lies, dishonesty.
A state of consciousness arrives as a consequence of the assimilation of previous experiences. There is no particular experience which is the “One” changing our state of consciousness but there is an experience that will be the catalyst, the trigger for the on-going manifestation. A song is not just the last note being played by a pianist but a succession of different notes. The last note only indicates the end of the song.
The Buddha experienced a “different” consciousness. His disciples including the Lamas, understood that state of consciousness as something desirable to achieve by giving up Life in the pursuit of a goal. The magic label is “renunciation.”
Whenever I share “consciousness changes all by itself,” that typically creates some deep frowning in some.
– “No… Meditation changes consciousness.”
Which meditation? Your style of meditation?
Can you decide the experiences that you will have in meditation or they just happen?
– “No. I cannot decide. Today I may have a great experience. Tomorrow I may not.”
How can you say that meditation changes consciousness then, if “you” do not have control over it? How can a method be created then for “everyone” to follow?
Why so many forms of meditation and so many different results?
– “Ahh.. it depends on the quality and quantity of your meditation…”
Which “you” have no control of…
“Poor little babies” as Alobar mentioned. It is not a matter of cherry picking experiences according to our beliefs. It is a matter of embracing, of being part of “what is.”
Life brings experiences. All experiences have a reason to be. The idea of forgetting about this world in pursuit of something else in the future, whether that is Paradise, Nirvana, Eternal Life or whatever glorified label may be, will not allow us to be truly honest.
Because we cannot live the “now,” we cannot be 100% in the “now” if the “future” is most important. Something to muse about.
What about goals? Aren’t those in the future?
Some may have as a goal in Life to be rich. Some others to be powerful. Yet, others to become an angel, to be one with God…
To be honest with myself at every moment. At every “now,” while enjoying and appreciating the moment…
When the drop of the Ocean asks: who am “I”? That is the beginning of intellectual deceit.
It is obvious that this drop of water is the Ocean itself, but some sort of myopia of consciousness takes over.
The drop of water beliefs to be something else.
“I think therefore, I exist.” That becomes the law of certainty as being something different, something special, something divine as if everything else wasn’t that special or divine.
Q: Avyakt7, you are contradicting yourself. 2 years ago you mentioned here, that “I am an eternal soul.” Then, you changed into: “I am pure dynamic consciousness,” and then you even said that “I am nothing,” and now it seems like you are changing into “I am the Totality.”
Can you make up your mind?
A: Do we see that a question such as “who I am” is only strengthening that idea that “I am” a drop of water?
Do we see that any definition of “who I am” is limiting through limiting words and never accurate?
All those different things that Avyakt7 mentioned that “I am” range from a something to nothing, to everything… according to Avyakt7’s consciousness.
Avyakt7 covered all possibilities of being! 🙂 Now, someone looking at this writing from a belief system, will not hear the answer given above. That person is only looking for the keyword, so she can say: “I believe.”
For instance, If someone believes “I am a soul.” That is a great belief! Now, let me ask: What actually that means?
For some it will be about denying everything that “I am not” to find “who I am”…that soul. But how that drop of the Ocean will find what “it is not,” when it is the Ocean itself? How denying something about himself will bring that person into the Totality, which means a different consciousness?
The above is a pretty deep explanation. Hopefully clear as well.
Right now, if someone asks Avyakt7, “who am I?” … well, a smile will come as a response… 🙂
If Avyakt7 dares to say something by adding more words to define “that,” Avyakt7 will be lying more and more by being away from what it is, through fancy words.
Do we see that?
Q: So everything that you said before was a lie!!
A: Everything that Avyakt7 said before was according to his consciousness… and “right” at that time for those in that consciousness as well. It was an honest answer. Let me tell you a “secret:” Unless you live what you talk about, you will be a fraud. When you are fake, what you communicate does not have any strength. In Spirituality, you discover things. It is not about someone telling you “this is the answer.”
If it was that way, then everyone will be “illuminated” by now.
“I am a soul” so… what? Is that another belief or an experience? If it is an experience, how come your consciousness is the same as any other person who does not know that “he is a soul”?
Many seekers in the past have shared their experience through words. Those words may have been seen as contradictory through time. (He said this before and now he is saying the opposite.) Followers who do not have an experience of those words, will be only concerned in making sure that everything that person has said from the beginning is “consistent” so the “dogma” looks the same. Nevertheless, those followers do not realize that those honest seekers, were merely sharing their own discoveries through limited words, and those discoveries will change as his own consciousness change.
To discover means to change.
Anyone who takes these words literally so he looks “educated” when he talks to another person about Spirituality, is not truly a seeker. That person is only concerned in concepts and dogma.
When you discover something for yourself and perhaps these words help you a bit in your own search, then… we are moving “someplace…” 🙂
Mathias; the wise tree, was “humanly happy” to see his friend Ananda open to life and enjoying the experience of living. Life is a precious experience to share with “everything” and “everyone,” from dawn to sunset and beyond… From listening to the morning orchestra of birds, to hearing the human sounds and voices throughout the day….
Life is consciousness. Everything is consciousness, although there are different degrees of it.
Mathias: Once your consciousness is open to life, there is joy, enjoyment. Nevertheless, there is still a division. There is “you” and everything else.
The next step is integration with the Totality. This is what some refer to experiencing “nothingness.”
Ananda: Friend is voidness or emptiness necessary for that integration?
Mathias: That is right.
Ananda: I will definitely be open to that experience. The paradox could be “Oneness through nothingness.” Nevertheless, I could not pinpoint how that openness comes. What is the point when someone experiences this openness?
Mathias: As you remember, Mathias mentioned at one time that growth happens through suffering. Mathias could give you a different answer. Mathias could tell you that this happens because of a particular practice or a particular clothing that you wear; but no….
Ananda: But… many people experience great suffering and still there is no openness in them…what I could see is bitterness instead. Why is that?
Mathias: Because those individuals rather live with their fears. They have a terrible toothache. They are aware of the pain and they want for the pain to go away. They sit in dentist chair, they are afraid of the dentist, afraid of the noises that his equipment makes, afraid of the whole experience… These individuals will decide to live with that pain. They will get up and run from the dentist’s office even if the tooth gets rotten…
Ananda: I can see that integration with the totality could bring fear in some. It sounds like losing the sense of “I.”
Mathias: In that state there is no desire. What are you going to desire if you are everything at the same time?
Greater openness to life happens according to your consciousness and… according to time.
Ananda: Perhaps this integration with the Totality is what some religions call as” Being one with the Father” or “merged with God.” Their consciousness may be unable to see that God is part of that Totality as well, but they are only able to see separation: “Me and God alone,” as if the rest was something different, something foreigner… when “God consciousness” is perhaps the greatest integration there is.
Mathias: Friend, are you ready for integration?
Ananda: Yes, my friend… although I have no idea how this could be.
Mathias: Do you remember the ball bearings in a roller skate?
One ball bearing cannot find its true purpose until that ball bearing realizes that there are more ball bearings needed to move a wheel in the roller skate… Once that ball bearing realizes about being part of the roller skate, then we could say that the consciousness of that ball bearing has opened… but oh!! All of the sudden the ball bearing realizes that there is a foot in top of the roller skate and with that obviously there is a different consciousness…greater opening my friend, new realizations!
Ananda went to the Ocean after this conversation. As he was looking at the dance performed by the waves of the Ocean, the coming and going accompanied by the soothing sound of the water hitting the shore and the nearby rocks and shells; there was a profound relaxation felt when there was no thought about “me” remaining.
Ananda realized at that moment about the immensity of the “roller skate” and allowed for that moment to “be” while his mind was empty of thoughts… 🙂
At that moment, he “understood” what is meditation beyond a discipline or a ” 20 minutes practice,” and he “understood” what is peace without thinking about it.
An empty self can contain the whole while being empty.
In Spirituality the whole contains the part, but the part is also the whole… 🙂
A reader requested an article on “newness.” That is a great topic to get involved with. At the same time, the “thought” for today was “nothingness,” which unexpectedly brought an unusual realization.
There is newness as long as we are nothing. 🙂
The word “nothingness” is usually not well understood in a culture when being “something” is taught and believed.
A 3 year old baby is “nothing.” There is no conceptual idea of himself in him. There is no comparison going on; thus all experiences are “new.”
Serious, genuine spirituality is there to take away all those things which makes us believe that we are “something.”
Being “nothing,” is taught by spiritual teachers with different words.
For example when a spiritual teacher talks about “merging with God,” there is no way that “I” with all its content (something-ness) can merge with God. But, if “I” is nothing, in that there is already that “merging with God.”
That is why a “child is more elevated than a “mahatma”,” because a child is closer to God’s nature.
As we grow up, we forget to be “nothing.” Then ego (something-ness) appears out of that growth. Then, that “nothingness” creates a personality full with “something-ness.”
“I” am a doctor. “I” have 3 cars a house with a Jacuzzi in a very selective neighborhood, a beautiful wife a dog and 4 kittens ;” or the ego of having “nothing,” as in: ”I” only possess a set of clothes and my bowl to beg for food. “I” don’t have anything.
See how that pristine “nothingness” disappears by creating “something” to be, an individual.
The same happens when in relationship with “others.” If “I” am a movie star, then everyone around me will make me believe that “I” am “special.” If “I” am in a work setting when no one cares for my input, then “I” believe that “I” am not worthy.
As long as there is some sort of psychological content, in “me;” there could never be the experience of “newness.”
Because everything “I” perceive will be tinted from that perspective of being “something.” Everything will start from the vision of the “same old thing.” 🙂
That is how we believe to be of a particular “social status.” According to that belief, we will put an environment around us. That environment is not real, it does not exist but only in our minds.
We have created a society under those premises of being “something.” Being “something” allows for division to take place, segmentation based on a particular characteristic:
Skin color, accent, religious beliefs, handicaps, education, sexual orientation, age, etc.
Please see that the “ideal” of a young, wise, loving, saint millionaire who looks like a movie star; does not exist; however, our ideal drives our behavior and “efforts” to “be” that.
That is the insanity of being “something.”
Newness is always in being nothing. When “I” am nothing; then “I” could be merged with that changing world as a baby does; there is always “newness” for a baby. There is no baby who is “bored to death” of the same old thing.
Boredom appears when “something” (a personality) arises with their own expectations and desires.
Being “nothing” is sometimes referred to as being empty; that is “empty” of content, which brings usefulness to “everything,” the world.
“Thirty spokes share the wheel’s hub;
It is the center hole that makes it useful.
Shape clay into a vessel;
It is the space within that makes it useful.
Cut doors and windows for a room;
It is the holes which make it useful.
Therefore profit comes from what is there;
Usefulness from what is not there.”
Tao Te Ching CH 11
“The highest truth cannot be put into words. Therefore the greatest teacher has nothing to say. He simply gives himself in service, and never worries.”
“Knowing nothing, you will be aware of everything. Remember: because clarity and enlightenment are within your own nature, they are regained without moving an inch.”
“To manage your mind, know that there is nothing, and then relinquish all attachment to the nothingness.”
Hua Hu Ching verses.
Spirituality is not ritualistic. Newness is not in “doing” but in “being.”
Being Nothing. 🙂
“To the ordinary being, others often require tolerance. To the highly evolved being, there is no such thing as tolerance, because there is no such thing as other. She has given up all ideas of individuality and extended her goodwill without prejudice in every direction. Never hating, never resisting, never contesting, she is simply always learning and being. Loving, hating, having expectations: all these are attachments. Attachment prevents the growth of one’s true being. Therefore the integral being is attached to nothing and can relate to everyone with an unstructured attitude. Because of this, her very existence benefits all things. You see, that which has form is equal to that which is without form, and that which is alive is equal to that which rests. This is the subtle truth, not a religious invention, but only those who are already highly evolved will understand this. “
Hua Hu Ching Ch 15
Spirituality has different levels of consciousness and understanding.
The above text succinctly explains about a different level of consciousness.
Whereas in most religions and philosophies, the existence of the “other” is a fact of life, something that we can experience as a difference between “me” and someone else; in the experience of the inner being such differences do not exist simply because we are in everything else. That is interbeingness. “Me” can only exist in relationship, never by itself. That is an illusion.
Nevertheless, religions and “good intentions” talk about being “good” to one another. To “do good,” to be “tolerant” to another, etc. They are not wrong, for their aim is for a particular kind of consciousness. If you are out of that consciousness, then that teaching is no longer for you.
Some spiritual teachings only strengthens the sense of ego. “I am good.” “I am kind.” “I am helping.” If rather than using “I” we would like to use the word “God,” as in “God is helping him through me,” at that point, ego is still lingering and surviving, because “I” am a special “one.” “God is using me.”
When we get out of this “I-ness” and really look how illusory that idea of individuality is, then we can see further. Just because we have separation through bodies, that does not mean that the energy which makes everything “tick” in the Universe is not in all of us at the same time.
We can call that “soul” but a “soul” is nothing without relationship, without interbeingness. There is consciousness which manifests in different forms through different “individuals” but all of that perceived difference is necessary for the Universe to change, to transform in its eternal game of duality, of going from one side of the horizon of life to the other extreme, just to come back where it was before.
Attachment is not understood until that sense of “I” is left out. When there is “I” there is “mine.” That “mine” we usually call love. That “love” in duality could be “hate” but it has the same root of attachment. To insult or to be insulted, is the same thing when there is no “other.”
The above is not to be understood by the mind, but it is to be experienced.
The growth of a “true being” lays in not giving a form to that which does not have a form, to experience that which is formless and to appreciate that formless “form” 🙂 as the common ground with “everyone.”
That is why an “unstructured attitude” appears, for there is nothing cultivated, nothing planned, nothing which needs to follow a script to be “real,” to be sincere. When we are true to ourselves, “everyone” experiences benefit because we are “everyone.” 🙂
The form and formless are 2 sides of the same coin which has no name. Two manifestations of the same thing. It is the mystery of life.
To be a “highly evolved” being means nothing when there is no “other” to compare to. To make ourselves understood through the duality of words, there is a need to write through comparison. When something is written or spoken, it cannot be the whole truth. 🙂 Thus, we need to find it in ourselves.