Dear avyakt7, thanks for answering my yesterday question. You have nicely place the question to second part of my question Great!!!!!!!. When I thought over it, It has created some different question:A) Whether Shivbaba have role from copper age onwards i.e in Bhati, “Sakshatkar” etc. or B) it is due to the experience of sangamyug that the bhakti sanskar emerges?If the question A) is true then baba must have consciousness atleast from the begining of copper age?.Hope, I am not wasting my and your time as you mentioned many times “Ego Trip” or too inteletual. Thanks and Best wishes.
Thank you for your good questions!
The role of God or Godly knowledge is just to make us remember what we have forgotten. What have we forgotten?
Please let us not spend our time personalizing God once we know that He is a soul residing in the soul world.
That is all we need to know. Everything else is in the Drama. Once we are aware of that through the knowledge that we have “churned”/realized and have gone deeper into it, we could see that the rest is about self-transformation.
To go into more details as what Shivbaba does? Or as the Sakar Murlis mention: He works hard for us…or anything of that nature, from my perspective is useless. However, I understand that there may be souls who would like to know those details, so I invite them to search for those answers in this blog, for I was one of “those individuals” at one time and this blog has plenty of that sort of information.
The “bhakti” or devotional sanskara is a sense of awe in comparing ourselves with what we perceive as a higher power. We do that with BapDada all the time. Rather than using our energy to self transform through the experience of the knowledge, most are happy asking for things to Him, becoming afraid of not having His favors and singing His praise as if that was the reason why BapDada is here among us.
He teaches to be like Him. Equal to Him.
In your question: “is true then baba must have consciousness at least from the beginning of copper age?”
I believe that I responded that in your previous question yesterday, by using another open question.
Let us be mindful of the diversity of readers.
Dear soul, I can see that you can realize many things about Gyan, you have a sharp mind; that is great! Let me just share that not everyone will be able to agree with you, but at the same time see that what you know and realize should help you in your inner transformation, otherwise, it just becomes more information, more concepts to think about.
It is good to check ourselves when spiritual knowledge becomes just another concept, another logical premise to blindly defend. We need to check that against our own experience on self transformation.
Gyan is referential; but it is not needed to self transform once we have a clear awareness of our own vices. That is why the most important item is awareness. To be awake.
A sharp mind could become our worst enemy as well, once we become engaged in trying to understand concepts which cannot be grasped by a dualistic mind. That sort of mind makes a good mind for debates and ego trips, but definitely lacks the experience of something which cannot be described through words and logic. That which is beyond a thinking mind.
Om Shanti. If the whole drama is based on TO REMEMBER & TO FORGET ( Smruti & Vismruti). What is the role of God?
Thank you for your great question!
Answer: To make us remember what we have forgotten, that is ourselves.