Eckhart Tolle on the past, guilt and forgiveness – Part 2

Mr. Tolle:
Nobody chooses dysfunction, conflict, pain. Nobody chooses insanity. They happen
because there is not enough presence in you to dissolve the past, not enough light to dispel
the darkness. You are not fully here. You have not quite woken up yet. In the meantime, the
conditioned mind is running your life.
Similarly, if you are one of the many people who have an issue with their parents, if you
still harbor resentment about something they did or did not do, then you still believe that they
had a choice – that they could have acted differently. It always looks as if people had a choice,
but that is an illusion. As long as your mind with its conditioned patterns runs your life, as
long as you are your mind, what choice do you have? None. You are not even there.

Avyakt7 comments:
Those statements above could be easily misinterpreted as: “ No one is responsible for their actions,” Just have tolerance. But at the same time, do not have any resentment for they had no choice, because they are not “awake.”
Even though what Mr. Tolle explains is understandably correct; there is no awakening until there is knowledge of the rules of the game of life. How can we be awake without knowing that? Here is when the knowledge of the cycle of time and “pre-ordained,” comes in handy, for what we see as “injustice,” is plain “cause and effect,” which could be improved as long as the quality of our own activities is improved and that means “being,” rather than doing needs to be “awaken.” Thus, being “awake” is first in order for our “doing” to be aligned with that. There is no “choosing” here. Doing is a consequence of “Being.” My actions a consequence of who I am.

Mr. Tolle:
The mind-identified state is severely dysfunctional. It is a form of insanity. Almost everyone is
suffering from this illness in varying degrees. The moment you realize this, there can be no
more resentment. How can you resent someone’s illness? The only appropriate response is
compassion.

Avyakt7 comments:
That sounds like the realization in this article:
https://avyakt7.com/2012/05/05/topics-with-depthno-one-is-guilty-therefore-there-is-no-punishment/

Rather than compassion, I rather use Baba’s word: “merciful,” meaning to have pure feelings and good wishes for all. No matter what is the perception of the issue, my feelings shouldn’t be changed, which means that I understand that this Drama in front of me is a movie playing and my stage is always constant, desireless. The perception of someone being ill and myself being mentally alright is itself an ego-booster.

Mr. Tolle:
Questioner:
So that means nobody is responsible for what they do? I don’t like that idea.

Mr.Tolle: If you are run by your mind, although you have no choice you will still suffer the
consequences of your unconsciousness, and you will create further suffering. You will bear
the burden of fear, conflict, problems, and pain. The suffering thus created will eventually
force you out of your unconscious state.

Avyakt7 comments:
Mr. Tolle is simply speaking about the law of karma. “Cause and effect.” However that understanding practically. does not happen always in the same life time.

Mr. Tolle:
Questioner: What you say about choice also applies to forgiveness, I suppose. You need to be fully
conscious and surrender before you can forgive.

Mr. Tolle: “Forgiveness” is a term that has been in use for 2,000 years, but most people have a very
limited view of what it means. You cannot truly forgive yourself or others as long as you
derive your sense of self from the past. Only through accessing the power of the Now, which
is your own power, can there be true forgiveness. This renders the past powerless, and you
realize deeply that nothing you ever did or that was ever done to you could touch even in the
slightest the radiant essence of who you are. The whole concept of forgiveness then becomes
unnecessary.

Avyakt7 comments:
A more profound look into “forgiveness,” is in the awareness of time and its repetition. Then we can say: What is the aim of looking for forgiveness if I am to repeat the same activity again? The meaning is that whatever we do is for the “now,” and not the past or future. I feel better now because I have forgiven myself. That automatically opens the door for a better future.
The understanding that “no one could ever be guilty of anything,” in light of a pre-ordained, “predestined,” movie is the ingredient that we need to see how unnecessary is to use the word “to forgive,” but with knowledge, the right word is “to forget,” because only when we forget the past, we can live the present without that conditioning which Tolle talks about. To forget is a merciful way of dealing with things rather than the “compassionate,” i will forgive you…another ego booster.

Questioner: And how do I get to that point of realization?
Mr. Tolle: When you surrender to what is and so become fully present, the past ceases to have any
power. You do not need it anymore. Presence is the key. The Now is the key.

Avyakt7 comments:
That is the experience of being “a-temporal,” the “now” is time, is present, but the soul is not caught up in psychological time nor physical time. The concept of “now” is not a time related issue. “Now” IS CONTINUALLY MOVING…It is never a static “now.” Paradox! and at the same time, to see and understand, the need to be “out” of time. A-temporal. The experience of the “dot.”

Questioner: How will I know when I have surrendered?
Mr. Tolle: When you no longer need to ask the question

Avyakt7 comments:
Knowing means to know without knowing as long as there is the experience of being in the timeless “now.”

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